More modelling tips from Alan

Alan, who got in touch last time with some wonderful tips, has mailed some more.

But this time, we can help him too. Any ideas anyone?

Best

Al

“Alastair,

When I sent the E-Mail yesterday I forgot the most important part.
Does anyone have a suggestion as to how you can make Corrugated Iron in OO/HO???????????????

I have tried Aluminium foil between old fashioned butter pats, E flute corrugated cardboard with no avail. They don’t look right. I have used Wills sheet in the past but it is too thick to give a realistic impression of bent, twisted and holed sheeting on a derelict building. Flat sheeting is easy just using an aluminium baking tray, cut it up, paint and twist it etc. and stick it on with Super Glue.

I forgot 2 tips yesterday:-

1. When I had a box full of plastic sprues I noticed little tags attached to them showing the part number. Simply cut the tag off, paint it and you have a house number.

2. A further inspection of the sprues showed that nearly all of then had a piece running off at 90 degrees forming a “T” junction. Cut the “T” off about 5-6 mm from the junction. Take a car mechanics hole punch (used to puch holes in gastet paper) and punch out a round piece of stiff aluminium foil, paint it and super glue to the bottom leg of the T. Turn upside down and you have a control valve for water, oil, gas etc. Drill out the ends of the T top and it looks quite good.

I look forward to reading hundreds of ideas on how to make realistic corrugated iron. I have trawled the model shop in Oz. but can’t find anything suitable. Though I suspect that not every manufacturer exports to Australia.

regards

Alan Warner”


A big thank you to Alan.

Best

Al

PS Heading off to ebay? Have a look at the latest cheat sheet here.


58 Responses to More modelling tips from Alan

  1. For corrugated iron, try Northeast Scale Lumber clapboard or grooved sheets. The grooves are differnt widts, suitable for any model rr scale. Paint them aluminum and rust.

  2. The punch is called a Wad punch, they come in metric and imperial sizes
    from very small to 2″ to3″.They can be bought in sets also.

  3. Corrugated Iron.

    Visit a card art shop. There you will find corrugated paper. It may have a smooth backing, but if you wet it it will let go. Some of the form may be lost during that process, ideal for battered sheet. Then out wioth the water colour, and hey presto corrugated Iron.

  4. IN HO SCALE YOU CAN TAKE CORIGATED CARDBOARD AND PEAL OFF ONE SIDE OF THE PAPER …. OR YOU CAN ALWAYS GET SOME ONE SIDED CORRIGATED CARDBOARD FROM THE GROCERY OR LOCAL STORE

    PAINT THE CARDBOARD AS YOU LIKE
    OR
    YOU CAN USES TINFOIL AND FORM IT TO THE CARDBOARD
    I WOULD RECOMEND HEAVY HEAVER GUAGE TINFOIL TO HOLD THE SHAPE BETTER IF YOU CANNOT ACHIVE THE SHAPE YOU WANT YOU CAN ALWAYS APPLY A BALAST GLUE MIXTURE TO THE EXPOSED SIDE OF THE FOIL AS U MOLD IT TO HOLD ITS SHAPE

  5. Corrugated Iron Reply: If you are talking about corrugated sheet metal as in barn roofing and siding, try making a press with thin wooden dowel rods for the bottom and top then place the material between them and press to together. Size and spacing of dowel will produce differents effects.

    Tom S

  6. Hi Alan

    This side of the World we have Craft/Hobby shops that stock corrugated paper in varying degrees of thickness and colors etc also I save the corrugated paper from some types of chocolate cakes etc and these are not to bad a Scale etc and are mostly plain white.
    Best of Luck my friend

    Tom

  7. I used corrugated card as a tin roof for an old shed. I think once painted rusty red and brown, it really does the job.

  8. The cardboard sleeves that go around a hot cup of coffee or tea when opened up make for great fences or cat walks. The sleeves from 7-11 are excellent for this, and most of the time they are brown. Hopefully, you have a 7-11 or a chain that uses something similar near you. Good luck!

  9. I would use Evergreen Styrene sheets. They have several styles to choose from. Thier is also a gentlemen on Ebay that sells molds for corrogated Iron. Im unclear of hios name, but if you type in the search mode, Iron or metal molds, it will pull all that are associated with it.

  10. Wills also do corrugates glazing sheets, which are thinner and more flexible, and of course can be painted to look like corrugated iron!

  11. It is simple you walk to where your wife keeps her scrapbooking stuff you pull out the heaviest piece of paper you can find and I am not sure what the tool is called but it makes corrigated paper beautifully. But it is located with the scrapbooking stuff.

  12. Hi I find that corrugated cardboard, which you can buy from a craft shop
    can be used for corrugated iron.

  13. Hi

    Try looking up steam in the bush on the net.Good luck

  14. Corrugated cardboard makes a good garden or farm, nicely spaced furrows. It is already brown and rough enough to loo9k like dirt – just add some colored push pins for pumpkins or green stuff for lettuce, cabbage, etc.

  15. O E Bay I found a set f 2 pieces of plastic 1.02×3.15 (approx. 7×23 feet HO scale) with .03 grooves on one side. the seller suggested compressing a piece of aluminum between them. It produces a pretty good corrugated panel. I’m 76 and don’t have time for that level of detail. I cut a strip of 18 in. wide Reynolds heavy duty aluminum wrap across the sheet and lay it across a piece of Evergreen styrene with a matching pitch. Forcing the foil into the big sheet with the ribbed end edge produces what looks like a 7 ft wide panel by keeping the following set of corrugations adjacent to the previous set and keeping them parallel. Hope this helps.

  16. i wanted to know also about corrigated roofs some great ideas i really enjoy reading
    these helpful hints

  17. Try running the aluminum pan pieces through a press used to get all the paint out of a artists paint tube. They leave a nive corrugayed, patten an tje material

  18. try corrugated cardboard which comes as a packing material in many small items. no cost except to paint.

    also, free ballast. try used, dried coffee grounds.

  19. Hello Alan,
    I recommend getting two sheets of Evergreen corrugated iron-textured plastic sheet,

    http://www.evergreenscalemodels.com/Sheets.htm#Corrugated%20Metal%20Siding

    backing them up with epoxy putty to make two halves of a press, then sandwiching thin sheet metal (such as lead or even thick aluminum foil) between the halves. The result should be suitably fragile for distressing and thin enough for scale. A more durable press can be made by making a mold of the sandwich halves, then casting new impressions in shore 80D resin. That should last quite a few buildings!

  20. a few years ago here in Victoria i was given a bottle of dedorant and the packaging was just like corrugated iron in HO scale. i dont remember the brand but it was a good brand name and the cardboard box it came in was pefect for corrugated iron. i still have it packed away somewhere and even though im in N gauge its too big i felt its too good to throw away as its identical to Corrugated iron so go looking at a Chemist who sells Dedorants and look at the boxes

  21. buy a set of miniature screw drivers and make rollers out of them to get very good looking corrugated roofing or siding.

  22. lay heavy duty foil on a soft surface to roll siding or roofing.

  23. First time posting because this topic caught my interest. Anyway…

    Corrugated sheets – I figure for N or smaller scales you could scape a fine-tooth hack saw blade across plastic modeling sheets.

    Misc. boxes and “stuff” – take electronic components off of bad circuit cards and broken hard drives. The drives are also a great source for magnets.

  24. Here is my French technique
    I use the thick aluminium foil used to cover TV dinner (standard packing aluminium foil for wrapping food is too thin) that I apply on a sample of (expensive) corrugated styrene sheet. I brush the foil until it fits the corrugated shape. The thicker the foil thickness, the hardest the brush to be used for that purpose (for instance nylon kitchen brush) . I bought samples from corrugated styrene sheets from several model manufacturers to have a diversity of scale patterns and to avoid uniformity.
    One trick: when gluing aluminium sheet on styrene or thick cardboard, glue only one length with small glue dots for the rest if you don’t want the whole assembly to bend after a few days.

  25. This is a great tip but there is one thing I’d like to put to Vic Pompa, how can U paint them aluminium and rust when aluminium don’t rust it corrodes.

  26. Seen in Model Rail Sept 2011 page 64-66 article on How to make Corrugated Iron using Modelscene Asbostos Sheet kit 5054 [note this is 00/H0]. Interesting on how to make rotted sheets. Take a piece of foil and cut small holes in it with a sharf knife. Then pierce a lot of small holes using a map pin randomly. Then press the foil in the jig. hey presto.

  27. Alastair,

    I have been very impressed with Daves layout for the past few months. Where does he get his buildings from? Some I recognise but the great majority I don’t. We don’t have a great selection in South Australia. Mainly Dapol/Airfix and some very expensive European and American ones.

    Regards
    Alan Warner.

  28. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME HELP WITH MY DISPLAY , THE PROBLEM I’M HAVING IS THAT MY STREET LIGHTS DON’T LAST VERY LONG, I CHECKED MY VOLTAGE ON MY TRANSFORMERS AND THEY READ 20V TO 21V AC BUT ALL OF THE ST. LIGHTS I BUR ARE RATED 14 VOLTS. ONLY ONE OF THE SEVERAL TRANSFORMERS I HAVE READ 15V AC ALL THE REST ARE BETWEEN 20VAC TO 21 VOLTS AC. I LOVE TO HEAR FROM SOMEONE . THANKS IVOR HANN. HAPPY RAILROADING . NOV.20/2011.

  29. Take a piece of cardboard box soak it in water, then peel of the top layer of paper and you have the corrugated cardboard exposed. Paint lt the color of soil and you have a plowed field for your farm. Paint it like rusted tin and you have a roof. Keep the trains running. Ken Jones

  30. As with KEN JONES idea try using a Cat Food box ( the type you get the sachets in) the ridges are a lot smaller than the standard corrugated card

  31. Two comments to you all:

    Corrugated Roofing: I don’t know which scale you are working with, but the paper that my wife uses when she makes cup cakes to hold the dough during baking is corrugated.

    Cut off the bottom, then to size then glue the corrugated paper to something substantial. Spay with what ever color(s) or “coulours” for those on the other side of the pond, you desire :-).,

    Ivor – If you can change out the tiny lamps, why not switch over to white or whatever color LEDs. Real tiny LEDs are used on some printed circuit boards. Be careful soldering to them due to the heat.

    Then determine the correct resistor using E (voltage) = I (current)R (resistance). 10 ma. (.010 amps.) is a good number to use.

    Put a resistor of whatever value you compute in series with one of the leads.

    You might try putting a diode in series with one of the incandescent lamp leads (any direction will work) and see if the brightness is to your liking.

    Sorry to lecture, its a bad habit of mine.

    Barry

  32. Many of the tips given are useful but could I suggest subscribers say what
    country they live in so that we can all understand some of the jargon used.

  33. great tip alan

  34. My n scale train cars will not stay coupled, the only thing i can think of is my track is on my living room carpet is there such a thing as locks ?

  35. If you want a corrugated metal look you can use aluminum foil or thin cardboard then get the look by running over it with a screen tool…the same one you use for putting splines in a screen door or window.

  36. Hi Alan,
    I’ve just had a thought, how about using floor tile adhesive. Speading a flat thickish amount on a pieceog paper and let it dry. Then get a piece of plastic and using a thin drill bit , cut groves in it to the scale you want,
    so that it looks serated, now spead a further cot of tile adhesive on the piece you’ve already prepared earlier and use the plasitc serated plastic to make the grooves for the corrigated roof panels

    hope this is of some help

    regards

    Gary

  37. In the UK, pies of every description are usually sold in corrugated foil containers. Eat the product, yum yum wash the container and cut to size. Instant corrugated sheets that are easy to bend cut and paint.

    Happy modelling

    Martin

  38. Many, many years ago there was a line of metal kits which had corrugated siding and all kinds of metal angles which were to be soldered together, “Sydam” as I recall. Anyways I have for years since used these leftover siding pieces to make siding from aluminum wrap by placing small pieces over the heavy gauge materials and dragging a piece of balsawood over this to obtain corrugations. These can then be cut with a cheap pair of shears for the sheet sizes and glued to a cardboard backer or directly to wood framing. These are very delicate.

  39. This is more for the n scalers… A good substitute for corrugated iron is the parallel computer cable that was once standard on many printers and other attachments. It is flat, stiff and the corrugations are fairly close to scale. It also takes paint and glue fairly well.

  40. I have made corrugated iron sheets with heavy duty foil spread out on a bit of foam then I run a comb down the sheet leaving nice grooves behind. My wife has different combs that give good effects.
    For iron cladding, I use foam and a flat tool with a serrated edge that came with a tin of contact adhesive ot tile grout, ( can’t remember which). It does a neat job on heavy used in food packaging we get here in Scotland.
    The tip for soaking off the top layer of paper to reveal the corrugated part of a cardboard box is a good one. Just about everything in Africa where i grew up was made from corrugated iron on wooden frames. D/

  41. For the question on voltage for lighting instead of using the AC for lighting, use an extra power pack using the DC track output. You can then adjust the voltage using the speed control. Works great saving lots of bulbs.

  42. On the subject of street lighting.
    Don’t use a transformer with a higher voltage than the lamps are rated for – thats why they are burning out!
    Also be wary of lamps from China that say 12volts. Often hey are only 6 volts and they melt the lamp fixing vey quickly once turned on.

  43. To make corrugated iron sheets, I run brass shim or aluminium foil between a pair of gears from Meccano or similar. All diameters and tooth sizes are available from HPC gears in the UK. This technique can be used for canal or river side piling as well

  44. Reference street lights and voltages.
    We wire them in pairs in series, this immediately halves the volts going through each lamp.

  45. I use a flea comb my wife had for the dogs with heavy duty aluminum foil, works great for HO, like somebody said, over stryrafoam. Then paint with flat silver paint and dry brush with rust for weathered roofing.

  46. I know it is not the right size, but bean tins cut up make great Nissan huts or taller work places with brick walls, you can even make them flat with a bit of work. Not as easy to work with though. UK

  47. What’s a “sprue”?

  48. In casting, a sprue is the passage through which a molten material is introduced into a mold, and the term also refers to the excess material which solidifies in the sprue passage. In sand casting, the sprue is formed by a dowel which is removed from the sand to make the hole into which the metal is poured.

  49. Can use aluminum foll by placing over a file. Use a soft piece of wood and press foil into file. Use what ever size file you need to make sheet metal.

  50. Corrugated Iron HO scale.
    I do not remember where I saw the idea but there is an aluminium extrusion, used in flooring I believe, which has fine ribs on one side almost perfect pitch size for HO scale. (Off Cuts from a job will do if you can find them) Cut short pieces and with a vice or clamp press aluminium from drink cans sides between them to get almost perfect scale corrugations ! (Press softly for rounder deflections – too hard will give more V shape! )
    The original article showed attaching press strips to a jig which held the strips crest above valley and I plan to use set screws to limit depth of pressing !
    ~~~Mike~~~ (Australia)

  51. Do you have instructions to build a football stadium HO size.

  52. Someone replied to the corrugated iron post suggesting to use a file. I fully agree, as files come in endless patterns (different file-different gauge). Deep grooves & shallow. I may even try small firm paint roller to in print foil.

  53. I have made a roller from a dowel rod, filed grooves in it to create the corrugated roofing effect. I used heavy duty aluminum foil and lay in on a peice of foam board that will allow the roller to depress the foil slightly. It takes time and patience but the results are worth it and you will take pride in knowing that it is something you created. Best of luck with your layout.

  54. Hi IVOR I buy regulated transformers that put out dc volts in 3-4.5-6-7.5-9-12 rangees, just turn front knob to desired volts. This a regulated power supply rated to 2 amps. I buy them at a store called Fry`s electronics in AZ USA. The brand is LKG Industries Inc,,Rockford Il. 61109 Just trying to help be sure to put a resistor in one leg. Good luck Tom in AZ

  55. Try using a curling iron that women use to form. There is a very small one that should be perfect.

  56. Hey Alan,
    Some good heavy duty aluminium foil I use is called black wrap. I use it when working in the professional/theatrical industry. And it’s black.

  57. Hi, I know what to do.
    I wanted to have tin just like what you wanted, so I went to my mums craft box and took the smallest rippled sheet of card that she had. Then I put PVA glue on to tin foil and glued it to that, making the groove with a match stick. So any sheet with the size that you need will do the trick

  58. Hi.- Here, in Chile, fruit cans have corrugated sides. They are perfects for roofs, side of buildings and so on. Maybe they are aout of scale (HO) but they may be one solution. Greetings. Edmundo.-

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