Rob’s been back in touch with his Lionel O Gauge trains:
“Hi Al,
Thanks for posting my corner cliff last week. The comments from the gang are all appreciated. Nice to know you’re doing something right.
Lot’s of questions were posted so I’ll try to do my best to respond.
First some history- I grew up in the 60’s-70’s with HO trains. My father had Lionel Tin-plate trains that we would set up occasionally. He built me a decent size HO layout when I was 8. I could run 2 trains and had a nice 5-track yard.
When I was a little older, we took this layout down and built a larger 12×8. We moved when I got out of High School and the trains got packed away, never to see a layout again. I’ve kept a few of my Rivarossi steam engines that I still run occasionally. I always had a loop under the Christmas tree each year.
I started building this layout 10 years ago this month. It took serious negotiation with the CEO but she has tolerated my obsession gracefully. Yes- 4×8 is small for any layout, especially O gauge, but I’m making the best of it.
My original plan was to incorporate some of Lionel’s classic operating accessories but my track plan and lack of space didn’t allow for them. I’m an operator, and enjoy doing switching operations, but I also like to sit back and let them run while enjoying a nice single-malt scotch.
O gauge and O scale are two different animals. Most people hear Lionel and think of the Post-war toys that many of us grew up with. Most of these are compressed and not true 1:48 scale. Modern O scale builders have joined the industry over the years further growing the hobby. I’m running both PW conventional, and modern trains. Also running Lionel Legacy and MTH DCS systems.
Since my layout is basically done (yea- no layout is ever done), I started to expand into engine builds and upgrades. I’ve added electronics to conventional locos and also modernized older command engines with the newer version boards. Lionel developed a Lionchief line several years ago that uses a Bluetooth communication system to control an engine. No added hardware besides a remote, or any smartphone/ tablet via their Cab 3 app.
Back to the layout. I had never done much scenery on my old HO layouts so I’ve really enjoyed the adventure this time around. My background as an electrical contractor certainly has helped as the layout has developed. I don’t have room for many buildings given the space, but I’ve squeezed in one or two. I would be remiss if I didn’t mention that I love your printed buildings and have used several on the layout.
First a full shot of the layout. Part of my real estate negotiations with the CEO was to win the air right over the file cabinets.
Factory siding (the background building flats are your paper prints)
Team Track- someone had asked about the retaining wall – also paper prints on cardstock.
Passenger Platform and Yard
Yard office- I repurposed an old Lionel caboose
Yard stuff
Corners are always a challenge. The rear left corner was particularly challenging since I had to climb on and over the layout to work on it. I built most of it as a diorama and then installed it on the layout. The retaining walls are also paper prints, I gave them some depth by adding balsa timbers. The hill is made from more rigid foam, covered with plaster cloth and scenic’d
Finally- the upper level. I built a girder bridge using Lionel bridge girders. I added a signal bridge that’s controlled by an infra-red sensor (Lionel 153-IR) on the right, that changes the aspect from red to green as a train approaches. I did some weathering with various powders on the girders and accessories. The center section is removable to access the main level tracks below.
MOW crew is on the job too.
This was a platform cutout that a switch sat on in my original track plan. Good spot for a couple of signal boxes.
That’s about it Al.
Thanks for all you do to keep the Blog running.
Bob from New York, USA.”
A huge big thanks to Bob for sharing his O gauge lionel trains.
I do love an update – and if you want to see his last post, it’s here:
Frank’s been in touch – he’s added to the Kato unitrack layouts on the blog:
“This plan is based upon a layout I saw online.
The original is a great layout in a very small space. I have just added to it a bit.
This plan has an additional island and a larger (fiddle) yard.
This layout uses Kato Unitrack. The plan, as shown, is for a 3 foot by 8 foot table.
The program that I used has resulted in some minor "irregularities" where the tracks don't meet (shown in red circles) but in practice, all will fit, though one or two may need "special" modifications.
The track parts are shown with the suggested location of feeders to allow long stub tracks to operate while operations continue on the loops.
The fiddle yard and engine facilities are expanded from the original. One track of the engine facilities tracks could connect to a larger layout, but even this small layout is busy enough to keep several engineers busy.
Frank”
If it’s Kato unitrack layouts you are after, here’s a few more:
Next up is Dan again – he really is the gift that keeps giving:
“A lot of your posters show night scenes. I never operate or show the layout in a night setting. (As you have seen, the layout is a walk in layout.It would be difficult to get around without possible damaging things on the layout.) The lighted buildings are all fully decorated inside. I built these before I had begun the layout and had the time to do them up.
Railroads operate 24/7 year round. Here are some views taken 12 hours apart…
Photos 1,2, 3 and 4 The engine house at Sharon Springs a division point on the railroad.
Photos 5 and 6 The freight station at Goins Valley.
Jersey Shore John has been back in touch with a fine update on building a HO scale train layout:
“Hi Al,
Time sure flies by. I was getting ready to send an update to you when I saw that I haven’t been in touch for more than two years!
I am now some 60% to 70% done with my HO scale fictional model railroad — the M&K Sub-Division of the Erie-Lackawanna Railroad.
Most of the progress has centered on scenery. And a 10′ x 15′ layout requires a lot of scenery work.
All backdrops have been installed — finally! It’s nothing fancy; just blue sky with lots of clouds. Probably too many clouds! There are some refinements to be made to better mask the seams between the backdrop sections and some repainting to be done. But it is good enough for now.
Given that the M&K is a two- to three-level layout, there needs to be plenty of hills and mountains to justify the transition between tiers.
The largest mountain installation begins on the western perimeter of the Hoboken complex and represents Bergen Hill. Bergen Hill actually exists and is on the southern end of the Palisades, a ridge of high cliffs of igneous rock that run along the Hudson River all the way up into New York State.
In real-life, neighborhoods of the cities of Jersey City and Union City occupy the top of Bergen Hill. For my purposes, though, it will be populated with trees when fully scenicked.
As I did along a portion of the Northern Branch between Marysville and Verose Valley (described in an earlier post), I have installed pieces of slate along the wall of Bergen Hill facing Hoboken to represent the Palisades.
The real Erie-Lackawanna main line (now NJ Transit) ran through Bergen Hill via tunnels. On the M&K, I had to compromise and build a curved “cut” through Bergen Hill instead. The double-track portal at the west end of what would have been the tunnel encroached on real estate that I needed for the town of Marysville.
So after spending a good deal of time trying to figure out how to save the tunnel, I begrudgingly went with the cut through the hill instead. Even though it is not an accurate representation of the real thing, I like it better because I can see trains making their way through the cut instead of being hidden by a tunnel. And the effect of the hill separating Hoboken visually from the rest of the layout enhances the illusion of distance on the railroad.
In the M&K world, Bergen Hill is part of a mountain range that runs roughly through a quarter of the layout. Further along the range, the hill accommodates portals for two other tunnels. One is at Koester Junction — named for prominent model railroader Tony Koester, who is a columnist for Model Railroader and a fellow New Jerseyan to boot — on the Northern Branch. The other, above the Koester Junction tunnel on the main line, masks the entrance to the hidden, two-track staging yard at Scranton-Chicago.
A second mountain of note is Pipe’s Peak, located at a corner of the layout on the main line just outside of Gregson/Croxton Yard. The upper portion wraps around a vertical sewage pipe. Thus the name. The M&K main line cuts through Pipe’s Peak, the base of which is below at Verose Valley. One wall of the lower portion of the mountain is removable so that I can tend to trains that might stall or derail on the portion of the Northern Branch located in a tunnel beneath the main line between Gregson/Croxton Yard and Highlands.
To build the mountains, I used “Great Stuff” gap filler, a foam product that expands after application during the curing process. It is available in hardware and home improvement stores. Some of the larger mountains have interior bases of styrofoam and/or cardboard so that I could get more mileage out of a can of Great Stuff.
Hoboken, the eastern terminus of the real E-L, is largely completed except for a few buildings and detailing of the overall area. My pride and joy is the Lackawanna Terminal, a Walther’s Cornerstone Series Union Station kit.
I left the front of the kit, which faces away from the layout, open so that visitors can look inside to see a detailed interior of the main waiting area of the actual terminal. To get that effect, I reduced to scale color photos of the interior of the real terminal and glued them to the model’s walls in the appropriate places. It was painstaking work and there were a lot of reprintings of photos to get the proper scale.
There is a beautiful stained glass ceiling in the real main waiting area. I used photos of that so that a visitor can look inside to see the ceiling, and also see the glass looking down at the roof. For the floor of the waiting room, I photographed a portion of the granite countertop in my kitchen, reduced that, and glued it in place. I finished it off with a Woodland Scenics shoeshine stand, benches that came with several Walther’s butterfly roof station platform kits that are installed outside of the terminal, and a bunch of seated and standing figures.
On the outside, I used photos of the actual greenish copper facade on the side of the terminal that I reduced to scale and glued those to the sides of the model. Those came out just ok. There is still some work to be done to get those to look a bit better. But, again, it is good enough for now.
The M&K Hoboken terminal complex is a condensed version of the real facility, featuring four passenger tracks served by the aforementioned Walther’s platforms versus the actual 18.
There is a two-track diesel servicing facility complete with an old Tyco sandhouse that I inherited from my father-in-law. There are several storage tracks, a run-around track, as well as a service track on the perimeter of the yard that serves a commissary and Railway Express Agency buildings.
There were several of these types of buildings on the perimeter of the real Hoboken yard along Observer Highway back in the day. I did have visions of installing a turntable in that yard area to turn around locomotives but there isn’t nearly enough room for it.
I have supplemented the buildings on the layout with building flats that I purchased online from tracksideflats.com. As many of you likely know, the flats are scale photos (with a 1/4-inch foam core backing) of actual buildings located in various U.S. cities. They provide some depth to the towns and cities located along backdrops on my layout.
I attach them to backdrops using Velcro so that I can move them elsewhere if I need to. I have made two purchases of flats and am satisfied with the quality and variety of buildings. I will be buying more in the future to fill in gaps along the backdrops in Hoboken and Highlands.
Speaking of Highlands, I did a bit of experimenting in order to fill dead space in a corner of the layout at the outskirts of the city. The area is hard to reach for scenery work so I built a removable diorama that represents a suburban neighborhood.
I constructed the diorama on a workbench using a piece of 1-inch thick styrofoam that I cut to fit the dead spot on the layout. I then glued a 1/8 inch piece of cardboard, also cut to fit, on top of the styrofoam. The edges of the cardboard simulate curbing when painted.
The cardboard is covered with medium-grade sandpaper to represent the ground. On top of that, I glued grass, painted sidewalks and “planted” trees (some store bought; some homemade) to finish off the scene. Eventually, I will be making another purchase from Woodland Scenics for figures doing various backyard activities.
Nearby, I finished laying track at Croxton Yard in the city of Gregson. Half of the yard has been in place for the last couple of years. I left the other half open to have an access hatch to reach areas along the wall. I finished it off this fall using the same construction technique as described in a previous post — 1/4-inch styrofoam on top of 1/4-inch plywood.
Since I still have some things to do in places that I can’t reach from the aisle, I designed the newly completed portion of the yard to be removable so that I still have that access hatch. I was able to configure the new part of the yard so that I could include a siding that goes away from the yard and into Gregson to serve a newspaper and, once constructed, a baking company. That will add an extra dimension to yard switching activities.
Backdrop
Dairy Lea Farm
Joe’s landing
Diesel fueling facility in shadow of Bergen Hill
Highlands local passing through Bergen Hill Cut
Bergen Hill mountain range with two tunnels
Pipe’s Peak
Views of Lackawanna Terminal interior and skylight
Rooftop view of Lackawanna Terminal stained glass ceiling
Lackawanna Terminal facade
Building a ho scale train layout – Westward view of Hoboken complex
Completed Croxton Yard
Building a ho scale train layout – completed diorama in place on the layout
Unfinished Highlands diorama.
With the onset of winter and colder weather, layout activities are now confined largely to the warm, upstairs portion of the house. I have plenty of to-do’s as far as finishing construction of some buildings and other moveable layout elements, and starting work on others.
Hopefully, by this time next year, most of the remaining visual “holes” in the layout will have disappeared.
Jersey Shore John”
A big thanks to Jersey Shore shore for his update on building a HO scale train layout.