Joe solves a DCC wiring problem

“Hi Alistair,

I do not know if model railroaders out there have had this problem?

After I had completed my installation of DCC wiring, I noticed that while running my 0-6-0 LINER 9833, it continued to stop at all points?

I did not have this problem with my Mallard 4-6-2 due to its length. I tried everything from cleaning track, cleaning engine wheels, checking the pick-ups if they are not touching all the wheels, are the turnout blades making good electrical contact with the stock rails and are the points laid flat. These could also have an effect on running short wheelbase locos.

After this, I still had problems and the stopping was not corrected. So I went to my local hobby shop and they suggested a “Keep Alive” capacitor. I had it installed and it works like a charm over every point. I hope this helps someone who might have the same problem.

While I was completing my layout of the High Street (pictures coming soon) and installing “just plug” lighting, I happened to come upon some old die cast kits. I had purchased these over 30 years ago while living in London and had forgotten about them.

So I decided, to stop what I was doing and start putting these cars together. I guess that’s my Gemini sign going from one project to the other without completing each. Because of the soft metal, there were many areas to be filed down smooth, painted, apply decals and properly fit every piece together. It took many, many hours but worth it and fun.

One below is the 1934 Austin “Low loader” cab. I added a drivers to both taxis to add realism.

dcc wiring

dcc wiring

dcc wiring

The second die cast was a FX4 taxi introduced in 1958 and was the first production model London taxi with four doors, previously, the space next the driver was open for large luggage as seen on the previous models. Both models were purchased for no more than 3 1/2 pounds in 1987.

Joe”

A huge thanks to Joe – It’s wonderful to see how folk get round the problems that their layouts throw at them.

If you look at Joe’s previous post, you can see how he solved the problem of getting underneath his layout. It’s genius.

That’s all for today folks.

Please do keep ’em coming.

And don’t forget the Beginner’s Guide, if today is the day you stop dreaming and start doing.

Best

Al

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13 Responses to Joe solves a DCC wiring problem

  1. Leon Angelo says:

    arer there any lionel postwar 3-rail buffs out there would like to share ideas.

  2. You did a wonderful job. Your attention to detail is excellent! I liked your design for the under your layout chair. Thank you

  3. Does the Capacitor have a micro-farad rating listed upon it anywhere, or does anybody have any idea what the micro-farad rating would be?

  4. William NOROSKI says:

    HELLO LEON ANGELO, Bill NOROSKI HERE, I’d like to hear from you
    I guess I’m a 3-rail LIONEL buff from a by gone era. . WANNA SHARE IDEAS?

    BILL

  5. Rod Mackay says:

    If a loco with properly working pickups and clean wheels stops on every turnout, I wonder whether it has a problem with the wheel back-to-back measurement on one or more axles? if the wheels are set too tight, it may be ‘climbing’ as it tries to fit through the pinch-point created by the crossing nose and the check-rail opposite. The distance between the wheel backs ought to be c. 14.5mm for OO.
    Rod

  6. To Dan: There are several manufacturers out there supplying “keep alive” products. Some of them use just a single capacitor and others wire them in series mounted on a circuit board which is then shrink wrapped to prevent short circuits. Basically use the largest mfd. capacitor with a 16 to 24 volt rating that you can fit somewhere in the engine. I have an all brass U-50 locomotive from the 1950’s that took over 8 hours to refit for DCC and added lights and sound. I wound up mounting capacitors under the engine to solve the problem of stalling at EVERY track switch no matter if it was “DCC friendly” or not. Glad now that I put the time and energy into the update. The HO scale “U-BOAT” weighs nearly three pounds and will pull a rake of cars about 80 feet long up a 2% grade over at the club Note that the loco was built BEFORE DCC was even thought of and it is one of the best running locos that I own even if the all brass gears and drive shafts are a bit noisy! Norm Lawrence in York, PA home of the “York Connecting Railroad”

  7. Rob Schweitzer says:

    Rob from Ann Arbor here. For people in the US who have the switch power issue, Tam Valley frog Juicers work great.

  8. Gary M says:

    Nice work on the taxi…………love the detail.

  9. don kadunc says:

    It is much cheaper to add the capacitors then trying to make an older layout DCC compatible. The only draw bake is if a guest engineer wants to run his loco on your layout without a capacitor. I bought a book on DCC conversion before these capacitors were available and I was discouraged at the amount of work and cost to convert. Capacitors eliminated 80% of the book.

  10. Malcolm Gregory says:

    Hi,
    I hope you might be able to help me please.
    I have just purchased a brand new set of loco and 3 carriages. The loco is a hall class 4–6-0 with tender, the loco motor is in the loco not the tender.
    Whilst pulling the 3 carriages on the flat there is no problem, however even the slightest incline or the addition of a 4th carriage I just have complete wheel slip.
    Is thee any advice on how I can get around this problem.
    Thanking you in advance
    Malcolm Gregory

  11. Jay Kirk says:

    Hello LEON ANGELO,

    I’ll join in with Bill Noroski, a 3 rail Lionel, internet friend of mine. (Hi Bill) Running four independent O gauge mainlines right now. The Pennsy is my favorite RR, (Grew up in Pgh) with steam my preference. Still running the original #726 Berkshire 2-8-4 my parents gave me for Christmas 1950. Had it refurbished about 20 yrs ago by a Certified Lionel Repairman in Pa, and she’s still running strong. Now do my own repairs as Florida has few train shops.

    Be glad to help out any way I can.

  12. Peter Evens says:

    I have had problems with Hornby decoders in Hornby locos, stalling on straight track. The keep alive decoder solved that. I think there are quality control issues with Hornby and Bachmann products.

  13. Bill Semanko says:

    Joe. Having trouble finding the web site for the keep alive capacitor. Could you please include the site in your post as I am having the same problem with some of my locos. Thanks, Bill. Kansas U S A

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