Model train reverse loop

Terry’s been in touch – he’s been kept awake at night by a model train reverse loop nightmare:

“Alistair: I’m hoping that someone in the group with a little time can take a look at my track plan and tell me if and where a return loop exist.

The colored tracks are all ready built and work fine and don’t make a return loop, it’s the yard tracks in outline form on the right side of the picture that I’m concerned about.

At first glance it might look like a return loop in places but if I’m right and you follow the tracks throughout the layout I think I’m ok.

Appreciate previous help from your members and hope they can point out my mistakes.

Terry”

model train reverse loop

And how about this for an answer:

“It looks like you have used some kind of software to create your layout, so I would suggest making a copy of the layout with all of the sidings and run-arounds removed so you only have to consider “main line” track and turnouts as you look for potential reversing loops.

I think your layout can be configured to give you a big continuous loop with no reversing loop, a second configuration with one reversing loop that would reverse a train the first time through the loop, but then revert to a continuous loop with no reversing loops for subsequent trips, and a third configuration with two facing reversing loops.

I see four critical turnouts to create these three configurations.

The first critical turnout is the green turnout at the top-center of the layout, connected to the top red segment of track. Call it T1.

The next critical turnout (T2) is the blue turnout on the bottom right of the layout. It faces “west” (left) and either goes straight as a blue segment, or turns north to connect to a green track segment.

The third critical turnout (T3) is the blue turnout at the bottom of the page and facing T2.

Finally, T4 is the green turnout facing south and above T3 and to the right of the yellow segment.

For a configuration with no reversing loops, start on the top red track segment, heading east into T1 and continuing straight through it, around the east side of the layout on the blue segment, straight through T2 and T3, around the blue 22R loop, into and around the green segment, through the top yellow turnout, which is not relevant, around the yellow segment and straight through the lower yellow turnout (noting that taking the turn on the lower yellow turnout will just carry you back around the yellow loop) and into the next green segment, then north through T4, continuing around to the red loop, and returning to the starting point, headed in the same direction.

For one reversing loop, T1 starts set to straight through, T2 set for the turnout to the northbound green leg and back into T1 in the opposite direction.

T3 and T4 are both set to straight through. Starting at the same point, eastbound on the top red segment and into T1, the blue segment takes us around the east side of the layout, but T2 turns us north and back through T1 going in the opposite direction.

Continuing, the red loop leads to the green segment and south, straight through T4 into the yellow loop, the next green loop, the blue loop and onto the bottom blue segment, eastbound straight through T3.

After going eastbound through T3, T2 and T1 must be set back to straight through to carry us back into the red segment, headed west. Once the loop is completed the first time, the reversing loop goes away, none of the turnouts need to be changed again, and the configuration becomes a continuous loop going in the opposite direction of the first configuration.

For two reversing loops, T2 and T3 must be set to their respective turnout positions, and T1 and T2 will be switched back and forth in the course of the loops.

So, from the red segment, east (straight) through T1, around the east side, then turning north through T2, switching T1 to go back into the red segment westbound, around the red loop, then the green segment that leads into T4.

After passing through one side if T4, a train will always return through the other side of T4 going in the opposite direction (provided T3 remains set to the turn direction).

If a train goes straight through T4 going straight, it will return to T4 on the turnout leg going north, and if the train goes through the turnout leg of T4 going south, it will return to the straight leg of T4 headed north.

So, continuing straight south through T4, leads to the next green segment, then the yellow loop, then the next green segment and loop, around to the blue loop, then turning north through T3 and back into T4 headed in the opposite direction.

If you leave your design like it is, I think you will be faced with some tricky wiring problems at those four switches.

Jim”

Now on to Patrick with a bit of light relief if your is spinning at the thought of a model train reverse loop:

Short on space – Do what Patrick has done – another clever way around the thorny issue of space:

“Here is what I have done as a result of lack of space.

I built up a hospital bed frame to support my set in my garage.

I can move and level as I like.

9′ x 4′ Working on a southwestern US layout.

Patrick”

model railroad on trolley

model railroad on trolley

model railroad on trolley

That’s all for today folks.

Please do keep ’em coming.

And if all this fun over a model train reverse loop has made you want to roll your sleeves up, the Beginner’s Guide is here.

Best

Al

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How to build a model train helix

John’s been in touch with How to build a model train helix without the pain and anguish that usually follows:

“hey Alistair

howzit goin man…greetings from the Left Coast of the United States…

Mark StJohn Jones here from Long Beach Calif…

here’s some pics of my ‘prototype track laydown’ and the FIRST elipse I’ve ever tried to construct

its just a prototype model I’m “engineering” ….lol

it’s all HO gauge and the ‘proto’ elipse only has an 8 inch radius and way too tight for much of anything except small stuff, it’s just a ‘model’ for study….

just testing my engineering skills and playing with it

the actual Elipse for my layout will have a 10 in radius (still kinda tight) but when you see my 48in X 60in layout you’ll see why it’s all so ‘tight’

I reside in a large studio apt and don’t have a lotta room to spread out like Dangerous Dave so I have to ‘Stack ’em Up”

with that kind of room It has to be three levels tall and I have to make it tight

it will have a ‘turn of the 20th century look’ when I finish

I’m also utilizing a ‘self-engineered’ version of the Woodland Scenics styrofoam risers, roadbed and technics..

never thought the difference between building with wood and styro could be so much fun……

more to come as I continue my build ….

your column rocks Al….keep up the good work

cheers

StJohn in Long Beach Calif”

HO track

HO track

HO curve for helix

HO track

HO curved track

How to build a model train helix

How to build a model train helix




ho scale track

ho scale track

track layout

How to build a model train helix

How to build a model train helix

How to build a model train helix

How to build a model train helix

A huge thanks to John for showing us how to build a model train helix the easy way – I do love seeing what you are all tinkering with, and your different ways and methods.

Looking forward to seeing how this progresses.

That’s all for today folks.

Please do keep ’em coming.

And if today is the day you get started on your layout, the Beginner’s Guide is here.

Best

Al

PS Latest ebay cheat sheet is here.

PPS More HO scale train layouts here if that’s your thing.





Faller road – Rob’s adds one to his layout

Rob’s created this youtube on a Faller road – if you’ve ever wanted to get your cars and trucks moving on a layout too, here’s how:

“Hi Al,

A lot of people are curious about the Faller car system and I was too. Because of this, I decided to buy a Faller starter kit and see what all the fuss was about.

I have been thinking as I planned the unfinished side of my Farland layout, it would be grand to have some other movement besides the trains. A Faller road as it turns out is fairly easy to design and to test your road design they suggest you use adhesive tape to hold the wire down as a test of your road design.

In this video, I open the starter kit and show it’s contents, then I demonstrate a truck running on my layout. It took about 2 and a half days to lay the road and get ready for the first test. I was so shocked when I finally tested it that it ran around the wire I had taped down and ran very well. I was not sure if it would leave the wire and go wild across the layout, but it didn’t.

I have had a lot of interest in in the Faller road system and thought perhaps your readers would too.

Rob, Farland Howe”

faller road



The very latest ebay cheat sheet is here.

A huge thanks to Hall of Fame member, Rob. There is always a flurry of comments when I post a video with moving cars and trucks, so now you know: a Faller road.

That’s all for today folks.

Please do keep ’em coming.

And if today is the day you get started on your layout, the Beginner’s Guide is here.

Best

Al

PS Latest ebay cheat sheet is here.

PPS More HO scale train layouts here if that’s your thing.