Tom gets the railroad bug again

“Hi Alistair,

I have been a sailor most of my adult life, but now, at 77 with failing health, I have to find a new hobby.

Some 35 years ago I built my first model railway on an 8×4 plywood base. It was a double O, essentially 2 ovals with extensions on 3 levels, but getting to the top Alpine village never seemed to work well.

Now I plan to start as a beginner, and for the last 3 months have converted our old concrete Marley garage. The walls are now lined and insulated, we have a new flat and insulated roof with 2 skylights in place of the old leaking asbestos corrugated roof, and a new double glazed UPVC door.

The size is now only 14×7 feet.

Now my question is this.

Where can I find a 3 level 00 plan that would fit my space, or could be modified to fit into the space?

If such a thing is not available, then can you give any advice to an old boy on how to go about designing one?

For your interest, I have attached pictures of my first pathetic effort. They are 35 or so years old.

I want to start again as a beginner. 35 years ago I was a young man full of energy and vigour, with skills learned from my father but skills that haven’t been used in decades.

So I’m looking for help in designing a new layout, using correct geometry, rather than the “knock up” I made for my son then.

Over time, I have learned that we forget most of what we once may have known, especially if we don’t use those skills, be it speaking another language, or sharpening a wood saw!

Warmest regards,

Tom”

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“I found a great way to keep the truck screws from comming loose. Take a toothpick and put a very small dab of rubber cement on the threads of the bolster…making sure not to get any on the face of the bolster where the truck makes contact. Tighten the screw appropriately. The screw will not come loose…but yet stays soft anought the the schre can be removed without any problems.

Rob”


“When coloring plaster rock or retaining wall castings with diute washes of acrylic paint, you can sprinkle on fine ground foam (greens and yellows) to simulate growth of lichens, moss or tiny plants. No additional adhesive is needed.

Thanks,

Dan”


“I use extra stick craft glue-the stuff in the brown containers. Just spread it down, use a putty knife to make an even cover on the roadbed. Place track on top, anchor with a few track nails that can be pulled once the glue has dried.

Al N.”


“I do a lot of kit bashing and detailing, I especially enjoy taking an Athearn blue box car or locomotive (or something similar) and making it into a quality model. This is not an earthshaking revelation, but I find 91% alcohol usually works well for stripping most paint. Just soak the body shell, scrub with a tooth brush and then scrub with soap and water.

Sometimes I have let it soak for several days, but it usually works. The alcohol can be bought at CVS or Walgreens at a reasonable price.

Jack”


That’s all this time folks. I do love all your tips – and let’s not forget that’s how the site started so please do keep ’em coming.

In fact, I thought it would be fun to publish one of the first ever posts from all those years ago. So here you are:

Eric shows us how to weather your trains.

And don’t forget the Beginner’s Guide. Not only is it a great read, all the Hall of Fame members have helped out with it too, and you’ll be directly supporting the site.

Best

Al

PS Latest ebay cheat sheet is here.



21 responses to “Tom gets the railroad bug again”

  1. Ron says:

    Tom, Model Railroader Magazine has 100’s of plans online that likely could be adapted to your situation.

  2. Maurice says:

    The gradients in the pictures look rather steep though I might not be correct about that. Space can be saved and levels multiplied (gaining space) by using spirals (for spiral read helix). They can be “inside mountains” by landscaping whatever you use to cover the track area or they can be “outside mountains” giving the reality of climbing the terrain if you please.

    I welcome others’ comments on this because I haven’t done it yet but I have been thinking it through for some time, pending the gaining of a Parliamentary bill to build the proposed railway.

  3. John says:

    Tom, where are you? Any idea what country or era you’d like to model?
    Are you mainly interested in running trains, fine detail scenery, or what?
    Best of luck .. One quick hint.. make your layout all the way around your garage walls, control area in the middle with an opening bridge across the doorway to avoid stooping underneath; assuming you’ll stay at 00, it’s not nearly as tricky as some might think!
    Best again, John

  4. Brian Foster says:

    Tom you would do well trying Model Railroader as per one reply the track plans are HO the track is the same as 00. If you are running English steam Engines you will have to keep the incline/decline to 3% if you want more than three coaches or six trucks if you run diesels then 4% incline is (4″ rise over 8’foot) no problem if you can do 4″ over 10’6″ all good Hope this is some use to you Regards Brian F. PS get those trains rolling.

  5. Darrel Wilkerson says:

    Tom – Just remember that when you go to get started what you may have forgotten will come back to you , little by little. Why don’t you try putting in a helix and then your trains can go up to different levels more gradual. Do worry everything will work out. Remember Model Railroading is Fun. Don’t worry what people say if it’s not finished – layout is never finished just more fun to do more and to change things around. Darrel

  6. dave says:

    That first effort does not look bad at all !! I am sure the new one will look great !!

  7. Rod Mackay says:

    Give DCC control a try, not only does it reduce the amount of wiring required on a more extensive layout, but it means you can have your steep bank up to the Alps and do as a rear railway might – get trains up the hill by adding a banking engine on the rear. Most modern models are available in digital-ready versions so you can add a DCC chip easily. My own layout is plain old dc but I’d probably go digital if starting afresh.
    Rod

  8. Rod Mackay says:

    Damn you autocorrect, that should say a real railway.
    Rod

  9. Barry Pearlman says:

    To Jack –

    Ever think of going to the local liquor store instead od CSV and getting some nasty 180 proof hooch?

    If you try this method and finish it all, who cares if the paint came off or not? 🙂

    Barry
    Chesterfield, Missouri USA

  10. Marty C says:

    The best thing I’ve found for stripping off old paint is brake fluid. Works much better than 91% alcohol and washes off with water. I won’t damage the plastic, not even clear plastic unless maybe you forget and leave it in there for a month or so and even then you may be alright.

    I’ve also found toothbrushes are way too soft, get a small nylon brush in the tool or paint department. The bristles are much stiffer and do a much better job. They usually come in a 3 pack with a stainless steel brush and a brass brush. Don’t use them, they will scratch the plastic.

  11. Doug says:

    For designing track layouts, there are a number of track planning software applications that are cheap relative to trial and error. I use AnyRail (currently at version 6) and it has a trial version that will let you get started.

    The two biggest challenges in your scale (any scale, actually, just worse in yours) are curve radius and grade. O gauge is forgiving in both, but realism suffers. A design program lets you both fix a minimum radius to keep you honest and to monitor the grade on your design and experiment with alternatives.

    I use flextrack so can freelance, but the other advantage is track libraries if you are using sectional track. When your design is complete, it provides you with the items you need in your track of choice to build that design.

    Your base layout actually looks pretty good, but appears to have dramatically greater grades than prototype of about 2 percent maximum. I’d recommend this approach over trying to find something off the shelf. But you can combine this approach with off the shelf designs by, for example, scaling a design from another scale.

    Best of luck!

  12. mitch says:

    maybe a good idea would be to do as I have
    I have 5 tracks of oo gauge on a 8 x 5 board and a fair ground in the centre
    On a higher level over the top I have a 2 track n gauge as a fairground scenic railway
    Good luck I am in fact a year older than you and I only started last year
    Regards
    Mitch

  13. Ian Mc Donald says:

    like the design, my thoughts keep it simple and easy to get to every part of your track and very long risers if really required. I am a lot younger than you my layout is flat .

  14. Kenton says:

    Nice job, I hope mine will look as good.

  15. Carl in Kansas says:

    Mitch’s comment about a fair in the middle of the layout reminded me of one layout I saw. The main layout was in HO, but in the middle was an amusement park. It had an N scale train running through the amusement park. It had a couple of passenger cars, the roofs and interiors were removed, and some boards were laid across the cars with HO people seated in/on the boards. The steam engine had the cab roof removed, and an HO engineer had his head sticking out of the cab. It represented a half-scale railroad which we have seen in zoos and other places.

    Keep on training,
    Carl in Kansas

  16. NJ Mark says:

    Tom, I restarted model railroading after many years and what I don’t remember is slowly coming back to me. Make mistakes and learn from them and most of all….have fun. It’s your world and you are in charge! Cheers! NJ Mark

  17. Martin Gliddon says:

    Tom, if you haven’t seen it before, Woodland Scenics make a superb range of polystyrene foam gradients that take all the guesswork out of building and planning hills etc. Check out their You tube pages where there is an hour long video on using their system. I’ve used it on my own O scale narrow gauge layout. It really is so easy.
    Cheers
    Martin

  18. oldtrainman says:

    I have used the computer software from “anyrail” and found it excellent. It includes all major track components that you can just click on and place. It is fairly easy to use and can print out to any scale including full size that lets you put your track directly over the print out for accuracy. All for the cost of one rail coach.

  19. Well, you had a great dad helping you make the layout. keep it the same and just double head the engines Im 74 got to give you credit, if you don’t do you don’t get and if you don’t get why in the heck are we here Your old layout looks great cheers THEODORE

  20. fred day says:

    tom a tree level on the size you are planning is aggressive at best. try to keep the grades at 4% or less. a bi level or a helix would probably suit your needs. there are many examples of a helix around hyper space. i am not sure how you are planning the layout i can’t go around the walls. i need a walkway so i cam only do a smi circle that makes a big difference on the track plan .

  21. Helmut Eppich says:

    Well detailed layout. Like the tunnels and different levels of track overpasses as well as the various lanes. That small town is very quaint and inviting. Sort of a bit like “The Village” from Patrick McGoohan’s tv spy series.

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