O scale layout 17×13 – Martin’s layout

Martin’s sent this wonderful narrative and pics of his O scale layout 17×13:

“Hi Al,

I suppose I’ve been into model railways since a very young age, my earliest memories are of Hornby O gauge clockwork train sets for Christmas and then on to Tri-ang OO gauge.

When I was around 14, I dabbled in American HO with the fictitious name of the Empire, Midland and Lake Shore Railroad. This came to nothing, and I drifted in and out of the scene, trying gauges from N to G.

Nothing ever really lasted that long before other interests, music and girls took over, both costing much more than model railways ever did.

Fast forward now to my recent early retirement on health grounds and subsequently my age…

O scale layout 17×13

My loft is boarded and permission was granted for a model railway to be built there. I had a skylight fitted to aid ventilation and installed extra power to the wires that were already up there.

The loft had previously been used for storage of all those things that might come in handy one day, but never do… my woodworking skills are zero and I didn’t want to go to the expense of a wooden baseboard and the weight the floor would have to carry.

So, a search on eBay brought me to lightweight interlocking and height adjustable aluminium framed tables, at 3 for £30, these looked ideal and were bought.

When they arrived, I quickly took them into the loft and built them up. There were four height settings, the highest being just right, and metal clips to lock each table to the next one. They also had a flimsy hardboard top, which was not really useful as I bent very easily. More were ordered.

My neighbour was having their loft converted into more rooms and I ‘borrowed’ a sheet of insulation foam. This was ideal as I rested on the frame work of the tables and was so rigid I could overlap one table to another, making a very strong but lightweight base for the railway.

The foam also took PVA glue very easily and was great and very easy to work with.

The layout was to be a British based industrial line with a cement works and small harbour as the main points of interest.

It was to be O scale layout 17×13, DCC sound, and rolling stock started to be collected.

The tables were erected and the foam sheets glued to them after a thin coat of emulsion paint had been added to the top of the foam sheet to allow PVA glue to stick to it. The aluminium foil that covers these sheet won’t accept PVA glue.

I managed to buy some wonderful industrial buildings by the late Allan Downes which, after a bit of modification, they were On30 scale, fitted in perfectly.

Track and points were added. I made the usual mistake of trying to fit Clapham Junction into a matchbox area, and the first attempt was scrapped before it really began.

The second attempt was kept a lot simpler, it’s amazing how you can picture these things in your mind and when you come to put them into practice, there simply isn’t enough space or the curves are too tight.

Anyway, I planned an end to end in a U shape some O scale layout 17×13. Too old to start crawling under baseboards now.

The layout had to have the cement works, a harbour, an engine shed and a fiddle yard, though in hindsight the fiddle yard should have been made longer, but I hadn’t banked on going North American at that time.

More scenery and buildings were added along with a very small station at the harbour.

By this time the locomotive roster was getting too large for the layout….there were eight British Rail Class 08 shunters and twelve industrial engines, all supposedly working a relatively small cement plant and harbour!

I’d deliberately decided in the track plan not to have any run around loops, which made and still does, operation of the line very interesting and things certainly have to be worked out to get trucks into the correct position and have the locomotive on the correct end in doing so. The building of the line was great, it’s operation even better!

So, Frobisher Cement Works was born…Frobisher being the name of the road where I once lived.

I had many happy hours up in the loft, operating the line and teaching my 8 year old grandson how to ‘drive’ an engine using DCC in a prototypical manner.

The only bug bear of the whole thing was three link couplings…ARGH!

I spent more time fiddling around getting wagons to couple up that it almost came to a point where I would give up in total frustration.

I used set formations of wagons that only had to be coupled to engines, but quite often, buffer locking spoilt many a operating session.

I even experimented with using small magnets, and these worked quite well, but they were very fiddly to fit and just didn’t look right somehow. Then came the revelation!

I was sitting in front of the TV one night, when the usual drivel was being shown. I picked up my tablet and turned to YouTube for consolation. Now, harking back to my childhood, I’d always had a soft spot for North American railways, I’d always wanted a Triang transcontinental set and having spent some time working in Canada and holidaying in the New England area, found a channel that seemed interesting.

I stumbled across the Santa Fe Junction in Kansas City and I was hooked!

Five or six engines pulling countless and different looking wagons, many graffitied, which seemed to add to the attraction, and the horns on those engines just blew me away.

I started to do some research and via a very steep learning curve found that American O gauge was exceedingly affordable and very well made. Ideal for a O scale layout 17×13.

A beautiful DCC sound equipped engine could be bought for as little as £200…UK equivalent £6-700.

Freight stock, which is so detailed bought for as little as £12, although the norm was about £30 per car.

I quickly established what to buy and what not to buy. Avoid anything 3 rail, Lionel, Williams and MTH, although I can now convert these to 2 rail.

Look for Atlas, Weaver engines, but take care as some are three rail, and rolling stock for ready to run items and Red Caboose, Intermountain and All Nation for kits.

I made the mistake of not researching the different types of railway cars enough and found that most of the stock I was looking at and subsequently bought was not suitable for a present day line as roof mounted boards had long gone by the present date. Still, what I couldn’t use I could always sell or trade later.

So the decision was made to transport the layout 4000 odd miles the Northeast America!

The Empire Midland and Lake Shore Rail Road was about to be re-born…

O scale loading platform

Early days and planning.



O scale buildings

Modifying the buildings to fit British O gauge.

O scale layout 17x13 engine sheds

The Engine Sheds start to take shape.

O scale scenery and buildings

Scenery and the final buildings get added.

O scale platform

The harbour station…

O scale cement loader 17x13

The cement loaders in their heyday…

O scale steam locomotive

All of the engines were weathered to one degree or another…

O scale diesel locomotive

Erm…something is not quite right here…Clearance testing!

O scale engine sheds

The beginning of the end…

…the start of the new!

I hope you can find room to publish and I really wish I could send over more pics…I have hundreds.

Cheers

Martin

A little bit of North America in Coventry, UK.”

What an O scale layout 17×13!

I just love what Martin has done.

I love the back story, I love the narrative and the pics speak for themselves.

I can’t wait to see some more.

Please do leave a comment below.

It’s fab that no matter where you are in the world, your layout – your universe – can be anything you like it to be.

A bit of North America in Coventry, UK? No problem. That’s what this hobby is all about.

A huge big thanks to Martin.

Another O scale on the blog that really stands out for me is Tom’s O scale

That’s all for today folks.

Please do keep ’em coming.

Oh, and don’t forget the Beginner’s Guide, if today is the day you start your model railway, model railroad, or whatever you want it to be.

Best

Al

PS Latest ebay cheat sheet is here.





Incline curve – Walt’s

Bob’s been in touch – he’s slowly building up an incline curve on his HO scale.

“Hi Alastair;

It’s been awhile, but I am spending more time working on my layout.

Incorporating the wife’s Dept 56 North Pole Series Collection of 46 buildings with my simple HO railroad oval with some turnouts and a round house!

Here are some photo updates:

incline curve

incline curve

incline curve

And the last photo shows how I am going to get will get wired below the board for lighting off the buildings!

Thanks

Walt”

Looks like Walt is doing a thorough job of building up his incline curve.

It reminds me of Bruce’s post on inclines.

It’s a thorny issue – get it wrong and your inclines be a constant source of irritation.



Now on to Wayne.

If you missed his last post it’s here.

He sent this in since:

“Dear Mr. Alastair Lee I have read some of your input, and that of other model train nuts. I am one also and have been for over 65 years.

I have always wanted to have a larger layout than a 4’X8’. I waited for a long time to make my dream become a reality.

My wife passed away about a year and half ago. Her canning room was next to our bedroom. I decided to turn that room into my train layout room.

The room size is 8’ x 14’ which is large enough for what I wanted. At 77 years old I thought I better do something while I still can.

I started this about 10 mo. ago. I don’t sleep much at night, which has helped me get as far along as I have. I have photographed almost every night’s progress.

I spent a lot of nights with paper and ruler trying to layout something that would work.

I finely purchased the HO scale computer software called Any Rail. It is great if you read the instructions’ first. I didn’t, it would have been quicker if I had, it works great once you know what to do.

If you could take a look at my layout and tell me what you think.

Most of the main lines have a 30-inch radius. This was so when I get one of my dreams (big boy) it can handle the curves with no problems.

I am calling my layout Canyon Springs RR. It’s a transition from late 1940 to mid-1960. Even though I read model railroad magazine, you tube videos, and articles like yours, this has been a learning curve, and still is.

I was looking for the tracks to cross over each other at the height needed for clearance. To get close to the grade to achieve the 4 cross overs. This left me with a lot less track footage but left me areas large enough for decent size industries, and a fare size yard.

I will try and keep you supplied with photos. If any you want to post, great. The rest can be put in the circular file.

In some of my photos you can see Rix Products HO 628-0103 Early 150′ Highway Overpass Kit.

I like things to have a start and a stop to them. To cut the cost a little and fit in my area I cut the bridge in half length ways. I think I used 4 kits so I would have enough side railing for both sides.

To get the curve down, and also bend around I used a heat gun. If you don’t get in a hurry you can form the plastic about any way you want. It’s a one lane bridge for ho, and two lane for n gauge.

I will tell you some of the other things that have been kit bashed, or made to fit what was needed. Enough for now need to get back on the layout.

Wayne”

I have really enjoyed following Wayne’s layout journey – I really like the questions that different posts inspire too:

After reading some of Wayne’s posts, Frank got in touch with these:

“I notice that many layouts are on foam board’s.

I have several questions regarding this method. I am now using plywood with “Track-Bed” and nailing down my N Scale track and breaking many ties in the process. So here are my questions:

1. Why do you use it and how is it cut.
2. When I go to Home Depot, what do I ask for.
3. Do I still use “Track Bed” or cork on top of the foam. ( it has to be movable )
4. How do I nail down the track
5. I have DCC. Will it affect the engine sounds.

Thanks for the answers and any othersuggestions you guys have.

Frank (73) in Arizona”

Please do leave a comment below if you can help Frank.

That’s all for today – except one thing: what’s happened to all you N scalers? And other scalers? We’ve had quite a run of HO scale at the mo.

That’s all for today folks.

Please do keep ’em coming.

Don’t forget, I’m running the silly sale for a bit longer.

If you want to support the blog please do so – because at the moment I’m not going to be able to afford to carry on sending emails.

If you want to grab 33 printable buildings and the Beginner’s Guide for just $9, you can do so here.

Best

Al

PS Latest ebay cheat sheet is here.

PPS More HO scale train layouts here if that’s your thing.





HO Layout 8×15

“My HO layout 8×15 is nowhere close to being done. I started with a bare room back in Feb. I stopped working on it the first of April.

I had a item on my bucket list that I wanted to do. I set my HO layout aside, got on my motorcycle, and went on a 3 mo. 11,000 mile, and 19 states. When I returned home I started back on my layout.

Regardless of my age of 77, Parkinson, bad knees, overweight and a dozen other things they want to give me a pill for, I am getting things done.

I had a track problem when I left on my trip, but figured it out, then corrected it when I returned home.

I would like to share some pictures with you, and the other model railroading enthusiasts.

The next shot is a hill that I am trying to create distance. This whole section is N gauge.

My sister in law sent me some ceramic little houses she got in Ireland. They’re N gauge size, so I placed them up on the hill, bought N gauge people, cars, some with lights, cows, and street lamps.

When I started putting lighting in I had to learn how to solder hair.

The other shot is the famous government “owned “comet mine” the critic got started by saying my rocks looked like a meteor had hit the area.

The shot is at night with the farmhouse and barn in the background,and the ice house and meat packers, and stock yard.

Any suggestions for improvement are welcome.

If you remember the “critic” comment on my rocks in my hills, created the comet mine.

That mine has grown quite a bit.

Here is some of the stuff I am working on.

Thank you

Wayne”

steep hill with cars model railroad

meat packing shop model raiload

ho layout 8x15 night time lights

A big thanks to Wayne. Here’s what I really love about the blog: seeing folk make a start, and then slowly but steadily progress.

And nothing demonstrates this more than Wayne. Have a look and see for yourself.

Wayne’s very first post on his HO layout 8×15 is here.

HO track layout



Wayne’s second post on his layout is here.

HO layout scratch build

Wayne’s third HO layout post.

HO layout progress

HO scale layout update number 4

HO tunnels progress

Wayne’s 5th update on his HO layout 8×15

HO scale mine factory

I do admire the way Wayne has grabbed the bull by the horns and just gone for it – it’s the start that stops most of us when it comes to a layout.

A HO Layout 8×15 seems to be a very popular size too – here’s Jeff’s 8×15 HO scale if you missed it.

That’s all for today folks.

Please do keep ’em coming.

And don’t forget the Beginner’s Guide, if today is the day you start your railroad adventure.

Best

Al

PS Latest ebay cheat sheet is here.


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