HO scale feeder wires

John’s been in touch – he has a question on his HO scale feeder wires.

Can anyone help?

“Al as always please keep it going.

I have included some pictures of my in progress HO gauge layout.

One shows the surface level “Red” track and elevated “Black” track.

Another picture shows a waterway under a trestle bridge.

And the last one is a poor drawing of my track layout.

My intent is to have two trains going in opposite direction that never need to stop to show my granddaughter.

I have the cork pretty much completed for both the Red and Black lines and ready to install the track.

Here’s my dilemma , some of the track is so close to the wall it’s impossible to solder a feeder wire at those locations.

(I should have my head examined as to why I didn’t plan this out and put the building’s next to the wall and the track out front.)

Now to my fellow model railroaders, has anyone installed track and soldered feeder wires the following way?

I plan with the help of my brother to bend the flex track as necessary to follow the layout and mark the track where the predrilled feeder holes are.

Then I will move the track closer to me where it will be easier to solder the feeder wires.

I don’t know how in using flex track will work out.

At some point l may have to glue or use pushpins to install some of the track. I hope what I trying to do makes sense.

Also where should I start?

On the picture of the track drawing the dots are predrilled holes for the feeder wires.

John”

HO scale feeder wires

HO scale feeder wires

HO scale feeder wires

Who can help John? Please leave a comment below if you can.



Now on to Larry:

“Soon I’ll be sending you some pics of my current N scale layout project, number 5 or 6 for me in my 74 years of existence.

But herein I’d like to expand on the subject of 3D printing which an email to you from Michael brought up.

The dramatic narrative below is fiction (it could have happened) and will demonstrate the issue.

Recently a fellow modeler dropped by my residence, and after a few pleasantries he got to the point of his visit.

“Larry, I’m trying to finish off my model oil refinery diorama for the club meeting this afternoon. I need some scale ladders to place on the sides of the tanks.

Have you got any you can spare and I’ll gladly pay you the going rate.”

“Now, friend, you know full well I’m an N-scaler and you are an HO guy.”

“Yeah, I was just hoping . . . ”

“But I think I can still help you out,” I interrupted. “I’ll just download them from the internet and you can have them in a few minutes while you finish your coffee.”

“No, no, buddy. I don’t want those cardboard cutout thingies, you download and print on your inkjet or something. I’d like some scale plastic ladders to glue to my model. Today, if possible.”

“Yeah, that’s what I’ll do.”

“Have you lost it, man? You’re going to get me some actual, hold in my hand, miniature, HO scale ladders through the wires?”

“Yep!”

“This I gotta stay for.”

“Technology, my friend. Let me explain the plan.

I bought a 3D printer for myself for my 74th birthday a few months ago. It’s an inexpensive entry level unit that does a helluva job.

The internet literally has thousands of downloadable files which are the printer instructions, code if you will, for making almost anything, layer by plastic layer. And most of them are free to download.

There are basically two kinds of consumer version 3D printers, based either on resin or on a plastic filament fed into a heated nozzle that moves by stepper motors in three dimensions.

The PLA filament kind is my printer.”

“Free things? What’s the catch? Do we have to sign up, give out our identities? Or, I know, I know. We’ll be breaking some licensing agreements when we print and use the objects – yes?”

“Nope and nope. Most sites don’t require an account, and licenses are for personal hobby use. You’re not going to sell these on eBay, are you?” I asked, cocking an eyebrow.

“No, of course not.”

“OK, then. See, here?” I said, pointing to my computer screen. “I’ve already found a ladder file and downloaded it.

I now have to load it into my slicer program (explanation for a later date) and select how big we want it. Oh wait, the designer already made it in HO scale (1:87).

And, boom, I just created the special file for my brand of printer, put it on a micro SD chip and I’ll take the chip into the other room where my printer is,” I said accompanying my words with action.

Fifteen minutes later my friend walked out my front door carrying three 150mm long HO scale plastic ladders, ready for painting and gluing. A happy hobbyist, I do believe.

And me? I now have a file I can resize by 54% (in that free slicer program) and make a few ladders for my N-scale tanks.

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If you are intrigued, then I will give a few more details about how I, a retiree living currently in a country 8000 air miles from my home nation, got into 3D printing.

Although I have been building various layouts during the last couple of decades, getting my hands on materials, models and all hobby necessities has become ridiculously expensive.

I have no local hobby stores, so I must order off the web. But shipping costs are a killer. The US$12 part I want, costs US$30 to mail to me! I decided I would research a better way.

And the answer was – make the parts myself in my house. I researched 3D printing.

I read various reviews and instructional articles and watched hours of u-tub videos. I settled on the printer model(s) I thought I wanted and began to search where I could purchase it, fearing it would have to be an expensive shipment cost from the US.

But fate was on my side (for once) and a local computer store had my number one choice in stock at a very reasonable price and free shipping.

I added a 1kg (2.2 lbs) roll of filament (250 meters) to my order. I assembled the device, checked and double checked, tested, and I was now a 3D printing wizard (sort of).

Over the last month, I have successfully printed (with a few hiccups) N scale ladders, stairs, fences, retaining walls, tunnel portals, sign posts, barrels, crates, 50gal drums, a dual axle box van, trackside loading dock and ramp, a small shed, city water tank, a pump house, crude-oil jack pumps, cows, some upgrade parts like knobs and trim for the printer itself, and the list goes on.

Larry”

3D model train layout

The photo above shows some of the items I have 3D printed (most undecorated), excluding the track, calipers, red car, and box car.

You can also play “Where’s Waldo?” for the two little 1:160 scale people. These are shown to give a sense of scale . Calipers are set to 10mm, which in N scale translates to about 5 feet prototype.

My financial justification for the outlay for a US$250 printer was as follows.

If we assume (in round numbers) that little detail parts come in lots costing US$10 and plastic structure kits cost US$25, just 10 purchases of ladders or stairs or cows or fences (total US$100) and six structure kits (total US$150) pays for the printer.

Not paying for shipping is the bonus. As for the media consumed in printing? 250 meters for US$20 is enough to make at least 100 small items.

The free slicer program I mentioned actually tells you how much media will be used; it even will calculate the cost for you if you enter what you pay for the filament roll you are using.

And, of course, there is the cost of wasted media and time due to the occasional human error. (Yeah, it’s like when you just printed out one of Al’s building plans, only to realize that you needed it in N scale, not HO!)

By my simple calculation, my printer’s ROI (return on investment) is 100% in one month, which is a great deal by most any standard.

If you have been reading analytically, you will have noticed two things. I did not mention making any new objects, only ones I can find on the internet already made and posted by others. That is because CAD (computer assisted design) programs are very challenging to me. My brain only goes so far.

But if you or a friend have the right synapses, most CAD programs (even the free ones) can output 3D printer usable code files.

The other thing I did not mention was people objects. There are people objects out there but most are “for sale”. Instead, I have chosen to order 100 painted N scale people from China for US$10 and free shipping (at least a couple dozen will be usable).

I am not endorsing any 3D products, but I will say that I was very pleased with the results of searches using the words, “Ender 3”, “Creality”, “Thingiverse” and “Cura 5.0”.

I am aware that my actions, if multiplied, will have a negative economic impact on the labor market, because workers who are placing extruded plastic into cardboard boxes, which are then placed in another cardboard box and placed in carbon emitting vehicles, will be less in demand. But there may be a few more real trees that survive. The PLA media I am using is supposed to be biodegradable (but there is some dispute).

One thing in life that is certain is change, including in your vocation and/or avocation. Artists of old had to mix their own pigments and support media. Artists today can choose from hundreds of premixed shades and medias. Does that make their output less worthy than the old-timers? I think not. So making your own plastic parts for your model railroad should be looked on as just another enhancement of your art.

Like Al reminds us – “Just get started.”

(Disclaimer: I do not work for, own stock in or have any contractual obligations to any persons or organizations in the 3D printing industry.)

Larry in the Land of Smiles”

A huge big thank you to Larry for sharing his 3D printer experience. Please do post a comment below if you’ve had a good or bad experience with them.

That’s all for today folks.

Please do keep ’em coming.

And if today is the day you get going on your layout, the Beginner’s Guide is here.

Best

Al

PS Latest ebay cheat sheet is here.





N scale 3D printing

Grant has been in touch with his N scale 3D printing adventures, and my word, it looks like he’s having fun and doing a great job:

“Hello Alastair

Long time since my last email. I have been away from the hobby for a while, but have enjoyed your messages and seeing the great work by others.

In the interim I have taught myself how to make models in 3D software and print them.

Part of this has been the creation of a small 009 shelf layout.

I present to you here a video link and some images about the creation of my layout.

This small layout, inspired by other industrial 009 layouts shows how a cement works uses a small loco to move resources and products around its factory.

Here we see a foreman instructing someone how to load products into a delivery van while the driver waits leaning on his van.

N scale yard workers

I modelled the:

Shelly the Hal Box wagon loco
Gray fences
oil tower
A Ruston loco

These were each modelled in Fusion360 then 3D printing them in resin.

Being a long time fan of N Scale, I have always loved the flexibility in layout size the smaller gauge provides.

Discovering Narrow Gauge has opened a whole new set of modelling opportunities.

I am particularly inspired by the odd little railways, the strange designs and protypes that can be made into layouts.

My models are available on Printables: @Fiendrunner

Thanks again for your site and the messages you share.

Grant.

South Australia”

N scale 009 layout

n scale narrow gauge

N scale 3D printing

N scale 3D printing



N scale 3D printing freight

N scale corner scene

N scale 3D printing water tower

N scale 009 narrow gauge layout

N scale 3D printing loco



A huge big thank you to Grant for sharing his N scale 3D printing – what a layout, it has bags of character.

I do love a layout with a clear theme, whatever that is… cement factory, logging camp, what ever – the ones wih the theme always seem to shine through.

Grant’s post also reminded me of one of Dean’s posts: 3D print model train.

That’s all for today folks.

Please do keep ’em coming.

And if today is the day you get started on your layout, the Beginner’s Guide is here.

Best

Al

PS Latest ebay cheat sheet is here.





3D printed O scale

Michael’s been back in touch with his 3D printed O scale buildings, which are saving him a small fortune:

“I’ve been slowly but steadily working on the layout – It now has a name – the Slide Rock Bolter Railroad (SRBRR).

I named it after a fictional creature found in the Rocky Mountains that I discovered while doing some other research. Apparently a “Slide Rock Bolter” is a large whale-like creature that barrels down steep mountains attacking miners, hikers, hunters and tourists. I’ve included a rendering that I have adopted for my railroad.

slide rock bolter

There have been minor changes to the track plan. All have greatly improved operability and reliability of the railroad. The changes are highlighted in the attached track plan photo.

The track plan is drawn using SCARM. The dimensions of the layout are 38.5 by 17.5 feet.

o scale track plan

Access to the main aisle is through a pair of lift-out bridges. The main line is 1.6 scale miles long; including all the track (sidings, wye, etc.) there is 3.3 scale miles of trackage .

Note: this track plan does not have a simple reversing loop. Instead it has a wye which I believe is more prototypical.

The wye adds a lot to the operations of the railroad because you really have to plan how you switch the yard and get the steam engine turned in the wye for the return trip to the other end of the line.

    The switches in the Primero yard have been realigned to increase the length of the sidings

    The wye at the west end of Primero was realigned with an additional switch greatly improving reliability of the engines going through the wye.

    The large radius curve east of Jansen was increased smoothing out that section.

    A spur from Trinidad was connected to a spur from Jansen using a second lift-out bridge; greatly improving the ability to switch Trinidad and Jansen.

    A third siding was added at Segundo; increasing the size of the yard to switch coal and coke.

    A pair of runaround switches were added at Segundo to improve the utility of the depot.

In real life the run from Trinidad to Jansen, to Segundo, to Primero was about 17 miles. I model just less than this by running laps around the layout. (see map; reference: Mountain to Mill by McKenzie).

Note the wye on the map at the north end of Primero. The beauty of this location is that in this small area at least four railroads operated, shared trackage rights, and interchanged freight: the Santa Fe, the Denver & Rio Grande, the Colorado and Southern, and the Colorado and Wyoming. The SRBRR most closely models the Colorado and Wyoming Primero Branch.

One of the things I very much wanted my railroad to have is a real job. So I situated it running between real locations and researched actual freights over a year’s time span.

To make the job real for the Slide Rock Bolter Railroad, I wrote a spreadsheet with a database of about 1900 entries for type of freight, type of freight car, starting point and destination.

The spreadsheet draws randomly from this database and gives me a set of jobs to perform using eastbound and westbound trains between Trinidad, Jansen, Segundo, and Primero.

It took quite some time to get the database balanced (and debugged) so the SRBRR could run freights back and forth without having cars stack up at one location without an opportunity to realistically return to some other location on the railroad. The system runs like a champ now!

The photo shows a sample of the spreadsheet output. At the top, an eastbound run has been completed with the corresponding cars used and the freights delivered.

railroad freight spreadsheet

On the bottom half, a westbound train has been assembled but not yet run over the tracks.

Orders for an east and westbound train are yet to be filled.

It can take upwards of two hours to assemble a train, run it at scale speed for a scale distance from one location to the next, switching as necessary at each location.

The spreadsheet output of two east and two west trains can take eight hours to run at scale. Each output is totally different from the next. It feels new and fresh each time I play with it.

For fun I did a hypothetical revenue calculation to enhance the feeling the railroad is performing a real job and making money. The revenue calculation is based roughly on some high level revenue data I found while doing research, but it’s probably not that accurate.

railroad map



One of the difficulties I’ve had is the problem of getting good O scale buildings that aren’t too expensive.

Having little success, I’ve decided to 3D print components for my buildings and scratch build them.

As a proof of concept, I started with a simple section house I already had and used it as a pattern to assemble a copy using 3D printed components.

In the photos, the building on the left is a kit I built a few years ago. The building on the right is the 3D printed copy.

3D printed O scale

3D printed O scale

There are some differences but nothing that detracts from the look of the building at first glance.

I did have some issues and some of the parts were a bit fiddly. I experienced some warping because at one point I used some paint not compatible with plastic.

But overall, I am happy with the result and I learned how to do it better for the next buildings.

The real kicker is the price difference. The kit retails for between $25 and $30. The material cost of the 3D printed components was less than $4.

So the cost savings can be quite substantial. I think the 3D printer might be my most useful and cost effective modelling tool.

The last photo shows the current appearance of the Primero yard looking east towards Slide Rock Mountain.

3D printed O scale

Michael”

A big thanks to Michael for sharing his 3D printed O scale buildings – really looking forward to seeing more of this one.

That’s all for today folks.

Please do keep ’em coming.

And if today is the day you stop dreaming and start doing, the Beginner’s Guide is here.

Best

Al

PS Latest ebay cheat sheet is here.