Model train tips

Don’s been in touch with some model train tips – ignore them at your peril.

It’s very good of him to share it. He’s not alone, I often get mails like his:

“Dear Alastair,

Five years ago I started a layout in the basement of our house. It was made of plywood table sections. After completing all the tables we decided to move to a condo.

I was able to use the loft with an attached bath. Now to share all my mistakes.

1. I was able to use the tables after I arranged them as a jigsaw puzzle. This forced me to make a track plan that fit the tables. The curves were too tight. So, I widened the tables. This caused tight isles. Starting over should begin with a clean sheet of paper.

2. I decided on a mountain railroad. This allowed tracks to pass over each other. It smoothed out the plan and lengthened runs. The elevation change was 18 inches. Wiring leeds to the track were over two feet to get under the plywood table. Most switch motors were above the plywood and hidden.

I cut five inch access holes in the plywood for future access after scenery would hide them. Disaster. Putting my hand through the hole limited my view. It was dark and required temporary lighting. While they were wired before scenery, Changing to DCC took advantage of the other terminals. Don’t make a layout with elevation changes more than four inches.

3. Not knowing about DCC I bought many nice switches off Ebay. Some were even brass. While they functioned fine mechanically, many were a nightmare electrically. Because of DCC I had to replace four switches after the scenery was in. Also, DCC required more electrical drops. This required 24 inch drill bits to get from the elevated track and through the plywood.

4. Before DCC I had to limit train length because of some four degree slopes. With DCC I figured I could add helpers. One problem, helpers of different types than the lead engine ran at slightly different speeds causing a tug of war. They can be speed matched with a recorder or an oval loop. I had neither. So, limit slopes to two degrees or less.

5. The last straw. Because of the elevated track, the two ends of the track didn’t match and made this a point to point railroad. I had a return loop at the low end and needed one at the high end.

I had planned for this. I was going to go through the wall into the bath and loop over the bathtub. The bathroom was not being used. We had others on the main floor. Last fall I mentioned my plan to my wife, proud of my solution. She mentioned, as a soon to be widow, she would turn the train room into a sewing room.

Plan B. I had a lift section to enter the space. I added two more to make a return loop. I am too old to duck under (76) so I was continuously moving them. Misalignments, derailments, and a lot of work. So, I am ripping it out and starting over. I wish I’d know these model train tips before!

Here are final picks of a pretty but non functional layout before I start over. I hope to save some scenes in a functional plan. I will use all new track and DCC switches. No tables, max 2% slopes, no lift sections,etc.

Don”

model train tips

model train tips

model train tips

model train tips



model train tips

model train tips

A huge thanks to Don for sharing his model train tips.

(There’s more here if that’s your thing: Model train layout tips.

It just goes to show a little planning can go a long way, but in Don’s defence, sometimes the only way to start is to jump in with both feet. You might go wrong, but you learn quick enough.

Others plan and plan, but never ‘execute’.

Please do share your comments and thoughts on this below – I’d love to hear them.

That’s all for today folks.

Please do keep ’em coming.

And if today is the day you poke boredom in the eye, the Beginner’s Guide is here.

Best

Al

PS More HO scale train layouts here if that’s your thing.





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O scale tunnel

Rob’s been in touch with his O scale tunnel project:

“Hi Al,

I fired up the inkjet printer again recently for another project.

I’m modeling O gauge with 027 track and curves, due to my space limitations. In my last update I had redone the front right corner of my layout.

train yard

The next area to tackle was the back left corner. I have been procrastinating due to limited access. I’m 6’5″ but even my arms aren’t long enough to reach to the back of a 4X8 sheet of plywood. So just like Bob in Virginia, I had to build a platform first. I had a scrap of 3/4 plywood and cut a couple of blocks of 2X4 for legs. I balanced one end on my ladder and I was ready to go.

access platform

So, on to the good stuff. I used your wooden corner tunnel prints and developed my own O scale tunnel and retaining wall to fit the available space.

O gauge trains need a lot of space on 27″ curves so I’m always watching my clearances near the rails. Here’s the first mock up. The outer line is the elevated track and the inner is ground level.

printable scenery

As you can see I am working under the elevated line so I did a lot of test fitting as I went along.

I printed and cut the wall sections as desired. I use matte card-stock paper and mount the prints to thin cardboard. I added balsa wood to the wall sections to add some detail. Extra pieces of the prints were used as well.

timber wall

Next was to build the terrain behind the walls. I cut and carved blocks of rigid foam board to develop the hills.

Another trip up onto the layout to do a clearance check

tunnel

Once I had the overall shape I liked, I mounted the tunnel to a piece of 1/4″ plywood. This way I could build it as a diorama and place it on the layout when I was ready. I covered the foam with plaster cloth and began to add ground cover and detailing.



o scale tunnel

o scale tunnel

o scale tunnel

I have a Lionel Lighted American Flag that I wanted to use on top of the hill, but it was too big to fit. I took it apart and set the flagpole and three of the LED’s right into the foam.

Once the flag was done I also added a scratch built light pole and started to get the diorama set on the layout.

I also wanted the road to look like it went somewhere. I found a print of a gravel road online that fit the bill perfectly.

Here’s the mostly finished product (is any project ever really finished? )

The last step was to put the elevated track back in place. I had to remove one of the supports so I made a small bridge to span the gap.

So there you have it. This was a fun project during a very cold and snowy February here in New York.

Thanks for all you do Al.

Bob in L.I., NY, USA”

A huge thanks Bob for sharing his O scale tunnel project.

You all know how much I love an update, and I love the way Bob has done this.

Course, I’m biased, but I think it looks fabulous.

If you want to buy the print out Bob used for this, it’s here right at the bottom.

All the prints are HO scale. FOr N scale just reduce the print size to 54%.

Most people play around with the print sizes.

Take Bob, he’s O scale, so asked him about that and he said:

“Al,

I went up 125% to get the proper scale. I based it on the tunnel height which is 11 scale feet. O gauge is loosely based around 1:48 scale.

I say loosely due to the various sizes of equipment built over the years. Especially post-war Lionel that was typically bigger or smaller depending on the model.

O gaugers have grown accustomed to these issues.”

That’s all for today folks.

Please do keep ’em coming.

Also, some of you have asked about the back drops. You can find them at the bottom of this post.

I really must get round to putting them in the store.

And don’t forget the Beginner’s Guide is here if you want to get going on your own layout.

Best

Al

PS Latest ebay cheat sheet is here.




HO logging railroad

Richard’s been back in touch with his HO logging railroad.

(If you missed his first post, it’s here:Logging and milling HO scale.

“Hi Al,

Richard from Oklahoma here again…

After you spotlighted my logging railroad, which by the way made me feel ecstatic…. several questions where asked about how the logs made it into the mill pond.

So, after some research, I found something similar to what I had in the back of my mind, but wanted to find out if it was actually practical and of real life…

Here is what I found and then constructed… as the loaded cars are spotted, they are then rolled over the side of the railcars and unto the ramp leading into the pond…

Some people seem to think that because something isn’t absolute, others feel it’s considered criticism, when all it is is a wonderment of how it works or should work…. which then creates curiosity for more details and realism….

Thanks Al for allowing us to share our pleasures and attempted desire to what we’re trying to accomplish…

Richard.”

HO logging railroad

HO logging railroad

HO logging railroad

HO logging railroad

A big thanks to Richard for sharing more of his HO logging railroad.

It reminded me of Jim’s: HO scale DCC layout.



Now on to Heather and Jason today:

“Hi all it’s Heather & Jason here.

Jason started on the lay out with what I had stacked up for him.

He started going through the 11 boxes I had with HO gear in them over the years of collecting & sorting them into separate boxes.

Jason would like some help from some very good minds please.

He has 36 degree curve track in 2 places & needs to put a curved bridge in them.

One of the gaps is 20cm & the other is 30cm, we don’t have any on hand so went looking on ebay can only find ones 7ins long nothing big enough for our gap?

Jason wants to do away with centre posts you will see in photos, where one side I played around with my hot wire & made a tunnel. He didn’t give me time to curve the entry & exit parts, thats why they are square. The small & large trains are passing through ok.

Now the other side, which is the 30cm gap, he had a stand under it but it was too big so I grabbed a bit of scrap & shaped a pole, as he wants the crews to be able to get past the hill where the lake is going.

He is not sure what to do & wants me to ask you if you have any ideas of how to pull it off & what to use there please.

One of the photo’s he has slipped in is where he put me in a chair with the tongs so I could help sort things out with him. Won’t let me put his photo in I took of him sorting stuff out, as he was building track.

I will add a photo of the track if I can do a days work without him changing his mind ha ha

Thanks to any one who can help him out. God bless & be safe too,

Heather & Jason.”

And who can help Heather and Jason? Please do leave a comment below if you can.
That’s all for today folks.

Please do keep ’em coming.

And if today is the day you get started on your layout, the Beginner’s Guide is here.

Best

Al

PS Latest ebay cheat sheet is here.

PPS More HO scale train layouts here if that’s your thing.